Page 1 of 3

A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 23:28
by 96000
Hello everyone!

As a lifelong Star Wars-fan and collector, it was like a dream for me when I first heard of the 501:st Legion some years ago.
The sheer fact that there was this huge organisation having fun while dressed in authentic Star Wars suits and gear, while also doing good through charity, was in short great news for the 12-year old me! :D
As I was still a minor at the time (and couldn't do much other than wait to be old enough to join), I had nearly forgotten about these old desires up until a few months ago.
I finally joined the forum a while back, after talking to some of the people who visited and participated at the "Scandinavian Sci-Fi, Film and Game convention" (in Malmö, Sweden earlier this year) and getting reminded.
So, my life's story aside, I have some questions regarding costuming, as well as some things I would like advice on from more experienced members.

Thus far I have:

* Registered on a multitude of different forums and sites I found interesting (whitearmor.net, among others).
* Begun some minor research for my planned future costuming.
* After some deliberation and consideration decided to make a "ANH Stunt Stormtrooper" as my first costume.

Now to the very point of this post - the questions/things I need advice on:

1.
What is a good way of starting out - what should I do first?
I consider getting an E-11 blaster first of all, since it's a sort of accessory more than an actual part of the costume.

2.
Can you recommend a few different sellers/suppliers and/or manufacturers that provide good quality armor?
Thus far, I have only really considered "RS Propmasters", who cast from original screen used sculpt armor.

3.
What is a reasonable price for a full set of armor, respectively a good E-11 replica?
An approximate price-range will do.

4.
Is it possible to order from within Sweden, or is it only possible to buy armor from abroad?
I am thinking of the (sometimes) insane shipping fees I would like to avoid.


These are the things I can think of for now (but I have surely forgotten something than I will remember as soon as I have posted this). ^^
I can be reached on Facebook or through email, which I can provide if needed.
Any replies are welcome and appreciated!

May the Force be with you! (stormie)

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 03:12
by 17113
Hi and welcome! Great to see someone doing their research!

1. E-11 is not a bad start at all! I'd go for it. I did my helmet first, since that was the first part I got my hands on and it's probably the most satisfying part to get finished. But the E-11 is quite fun to build as well.

2. Look here: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/1 ... find-them/
RS is not a bad choice. Really nice looking and relatively fast shipping. Quite thin plastic, but I don't find that it breaks easily. Mine is RS (abs version), apart from the helmet which is ATA. Getting it all from the same maker is recommended though, since there are differences in the plastic (color/thickness). Also, getting the RS assembly kit box is worth the money if you ask me.

3. doopydoos.com has a good E-11 resin kit. Also Pheonix Props (aka dday on whitearmor) makes a nice kit, especially the bolt and aluminium tube. I have a combination of both + some other parts. Reasonable price for full armor would be somewhere around 1000 USD + cost of all the tools and supplies + shipping.

4. No, sorry. There are no Scandinavian makers of armor :-( . RS is based in England, but I think most makers are in the US.

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 12:51
by 78346
1.
What is a good way of starting out - what should I do first?

I'd start with the E-11

2.
Can you recommend a few different sellers/suppliers and/or manufacturers that provide good quality armor?

Troopermaster, also in England.
There are cheaper options, myself are finishing an Walt's Trooper Factory armor. It's decent priced,
but the quality on anything other than the helmet is variating.
Also, RS adds small parts which is a nightmare to find.

3.
What is a reasonable price for a full set of armor, respectively a good E-11 replica?
An approximate price-range will do.

Not really an expert on the E-11.
RS Armor goes for 1200$, TM a bit lower.


4.
Is it possible to order from within Sweden, or is it only possible to buy armor from abroad?
I am thinking of the (sometimes) insane shipping fees I would like to avoid.


They'll ship everywhere. Shipping will be approx 700SEK, if it's not included, which I think it is with RS? (NOT SURE)

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 18:54
by 96000
17113 wrote:Hi and welcome! Great to see someone doing their research!

1. E-11 is not a bad start at all! I'd go for it. I did my helmet first, since that was the first part I got my hands on and it's probably the most satisfying part to get finished. But the E-11 is quite fun to build as well.

2. Look here: http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/topic/1 ... find-them/
RS is not a bad choice. Really nice looking and relatively fast shipping. Quite thin plastic, but I don't find that it breaks easily. Mine is RS (abs version), apart from the helmet which is ATA. Getting it all from the same maker is recommended though, since there are differences in the plastic (color/thickness). Also, getting the RS assembly kit box is worth the money if you ask me.

3. doopydoos.com has a good E-11 resin kit. Also Pheonix Props (aka dday on whitearmor) makes a nice kit, especially the bolt and aluminium tube. I have a combination of both + some other parts. Reasonable price for full armor would be somewhere around 1000 USD + cost of all the tools and supplies + shipping.

4. No, sorry. There are no Scandinavian makers of armor :-( . RS is based in England, but I think most makers are in the US.

Thank you so much for replying! :)
RS' replica was out of stock, so I sent them an email asking when it will/should be back again.
But that aside, I think I have finally decided to go for the E-11 first.

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 18:56
by 96000
Ryth_ wrote:1.
What is a good way of starting out - what should I do first?

I'd start with the E-11

2.
Can you recommend a few different sellers/suppliers and/or manufacturers that provide good quality armor?

Troopermaster, also in England.
There are cheaper options, myself are finishing an Walt's Trooper Factory armor. It's decent priced,
but the quality on anything other than the helmet is variating.
Also, RS adds small parts which is a nightmare to find.

3.
What is a reasonable price for a full set of armor, respectively a good E-11 replica?
An approximate price-range will do.

Not really an expert on the E-11.
RS Armor goes for 1200$, TM a bit lower.


4.
Is it possible to order from within Sweden, or is it only possible to buy armor from abroad?
I am thinking of the (sometimes) insane shipping fees I would like to avoid.


They'll ship everywhere. Shipping will be approx 700SEK, if it's not included, which I think it is with RS? (NOT SURE)
Thanks a lot for your answer! :)
I have taken both your's and 17113's answer into consideration.

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 19:20
by 96000
Again, thank you both for answering! :)
I think I am pretty clear on what I will start out with for now, but I have a few minor questions that popped up after I wrote my original post:

1.
Is there a risk of ABS plastic yellowing in sunlight?
I remember that LEGO figures are made from this very same material, and that - ironically - some of my old LEGO Stormtroopers got yellow when exposed to too much sunlight.
Could the armor befall this grim fate?
I am not planning on leaving it out in the sun, but this would be good to know!

2.
I have ofc found the relevant costuming guide for the armor I have chosen, and looked it through:
(http://www.501st.com/databank/Costuming:TK_anh_stunt)

I do, however, wonder - noob to this as I am - if the armor/helmet and blaster from RS lives up to the standards and requirements put on this particular kind of Stormie-armor?
Black-colored requirements need to be met for 501's approval, red for further level clearance and so on.
But how do I know if the armor I intend to buy meets these requirements?
In the costuming guide, there are tons of specific details that need to be correct in order to get the costume approved, but I can't find these details on RS' website.

3.
What are your recommendations for the not-so-visible parts of the costume?
I am referring to the neck seal, the black under suit and the gloves.

4.
Something else that I have been thinking a lot about are the shoes... Where do I gett fitting shoes, that look right?
Can special Stormtrooper shoes be ordered somewhere, or do I have to find a pair that looks good and edit them myself?

5.
Sizes.
How do I know what size an helmet is, par example?
How do I know the armor I am ordering will fit me, and not a 2m tall man of 40? :D
I have't ordered anything yet (and I won't until I am 100% everything is worked out), but I noticed that there is a function which lets you add optional information in your order.
I take it this optional information could be my measurements?

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 20:41
by 17113
1. The cause of abs plastic yellowing is actually oxygen, sort of like plastic rust, to over simplify things. Probably catalyzed heat (and maybe UV), as many chemical reactions are. I am/was a chemist, but my speciality is not plastics, unfortunately. This is somewhat unavoidable, but could be helped by some sort of glossy coating (applied carefully!!!). I haven't done this and I probably won't. Not a big concern if you ask me.

2. RS lives up! It's cast from parts used in the movie. If you don't get approved with this armor it's your fault, not RS's. If you buy from the list of recommended armorers on whitearmor you don't have to worry.

3. trooperbay.com, undersuit can be found in a sports store (get some slim fit "superunderwear" or something like that, none or not too much wool as that might get too hot).

4. imperialboots.com or black chelsea boots painted/dyed white. Got mine from H&M. Watch out for sizing if you go for imperialboots. You should probably send them your feet measurements.

5. Size of helmet? All of them has pretty much the same size, given they are accurate. No need to worry if you go for rs. 2m?! Aren't you a bit tall for a stormtrooper? Kidding aside, I don't really know if that would be a problem. I'm 185cm and slightly taller than the actors in the movie, so maybe. You could try contacting the maker and ask them, as they probably know. As for optional information I don't know. I'm guessing that you're going for a kit build and not ordering a completed one from RS. The armor comes in only one size (fits most). If you want it a different size you would have to go for another maker. Measurements would only be required if you want a completed TK, not a kit.

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 21:02
by 96000
17113 wrote:1. The cause of abs plastic yellowing is actually oxygen, sort of like plastic rust, to over simplify things. Probably catalyzed heat (and maybe UV), as many chemical reactions are. I am/was a chemist, but my speciality is not plastics, unfortunately. This is somewhat unavoidable, but could be helped by some sort of glossy coating (applied carefully!!!). I haven't done this and I probably won't. Not a big concern if you ask me.

2. RS lives up! It's cast from parts used in the movie. If you don't get approved with this armor it's your fault, not RS's. If you buy from the list of recommended armorers on whitearmor you don't have to worry.

3. trooperbay.com, undersuit can be found in a sports store (get some slim fit "superunderwear" or something like that, none or not too much wool as that might get too hot).

4. imperialboots.com or black chelsea boots painted/dyed white. Got mine from H&M. Watch out for sizing if you go for imperialboots. You should probably send them your feet measurements.

5. Size of helmet? All of them has pretty much the same size, given they are accurate. No need to worry if you go for rs. 2m?! Aren't you a bit tall for a stormtrooper? Kidding aside, I don't really know if that would be a problem. I'm 185cm and slightly taller than the actors in the movie, so maybe. You could try contacting the maker and ask them, as they probably know. As for optional information I don't know. I'm guessing that you're going for a kit build and not ordering a completed one from RS. The armor comes in only one size (fits most). If you want it a different size you would have to go for another maker. Measurements would only be required if you want a completed TK, not a kit.

Oh, didn't know it was oxygene and not sunlight haha!
My childhood was a lie... ^^
RS seems more and more to be the place I'll go with - have only heard positive things about them thus far, so it seems a legit choice. :)
I checked out both Trooperbay and Imperial Boots - more or less found all of the things that I asked about - great sites both of them, big thanks for the recommendation!

That about 2 m was intended as a grave exaggeration; I'm about 180cm! ^^

I think I have asked most of what I needed/wanted to know this far... If I come up with anything else, I'll write a new reply I guess!
Shouldn't be that much more I think.

Btw, do you mind if I add you here on the forum??
Could be nice to have a sort of "mentor". :)

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 22:43
by 78346
179 cm, 70+ kg were approx the used size for stormtroopers I think.

Re: A few questions from a (relatively) new member!

Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 19:57
by 96000
Ryth_ wrote:179 cm, 70+ kg were approx the used size for stormtroopers I think.
Yeah, that would make sense.
I am approximately 180cm tall and weigh about 52-55 kg (long time since I last checked)
RS Propmasters (from whom I will likely order most of the parts) includes individual sizing in their "Assemply service", so I will likely not have any problems with measurements. :)